Comments on: The BeOS Tip Server Is Back http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/ Like a chicken with a jewel in its beak. Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:28:12 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kancept http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-304078 Kancept Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:26:52 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-304078 Oh yeah, haven't tried BeOS on it yet, but may when I get the other SSD. Oh yeah, haven’t tried BeOS on it yet, but may when I get the other SSD.

]]> By: Kancept http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-304077 Kancept Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:26:12 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-304077 http://mydellmini.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2912 That;s a link to me getting Haiku running on a Dell Mini9. Worked great for being from a stick. Once I get a 64GB Runcore installed, I'm putting Haiku on the 16GB I'm pulling out, just to be able to swap them every now and then... http://mydellmini.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2912

That;s a link to me getting Haiku running on a Dell Mini9. Worked great for being from a stick. Once I get a 64GB Runcore installed, I’m putting Haiku on the 16GB I’m pulling out, just to be able to swap them every now and then…

]]> By: nutela http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-304076 nutela Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:31:53 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-304076 Haiku runs on the 7" and 9" Asus eee netbooks, possibly runs on others as well. See haiku-os.org or the mailinglists. And yes Haiku runs quite well but still pre-Alpha so be warned Haiku runs on the 7″ and 9″ Asus eee netbooks, possibly runs on others as well. See haiku-os.org or the mailinglists.

And yes Haiku runs quite well but still pre-Alpha so be warned

]]> By: DamBuster http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-304075 DamBuster Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:37:26 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-304075 After 20-odd years of professional computer use, I’m dog-tired of Mac OS (6,7,8,9, OS X), Linux dross and Windows crap. I’m tired of the incessant continuous system and application updates (iTunes, Creative Suite and Service Packs come to mind). My work load hasn't changed much over the years - word processing, drawing, light desktop publishing, PDFing, coding/developing, burning disks, image editing/resizing, video editing, audio editing, emailing, browsing and listening to music - all of which are a constant pleasure. Keeping up with Mac and Windows OS and their app updates is a constant pain-in-the-ass, everything feels bloated these days. Neither Mac nor Windows can be said to be "light" in weight, nor can the same be said of the Creative Suite behemoth; so, the idea of sitting behind a fast, stable, svelte legacy - but fabulous - OS, such as BeOS, using Firefox, GoBe productive, SoundPlay and Pe is a very enticing proposition indeed. The low system requirement of BeOS and software, especially in this age of the so-called “cut back” netbook, smacks me as the most common-sense direction to take, especialy since I can purchase both Rel 5 and GoBe Productive for less than $50 immediately today off the internet. Not that I could install it on a Netbook (I think BeOS requires a Pentium) but the thought of that route is SO enticing. BeOS seems to me to be the perfect netbook OS - I think about it this more and more, especially after reading Scot’s article “Tales of a Beos refugee.” while he was getting off on Mac OS X, he had me salivating for BeOS. Anyone out there no how to hack BeOS to run on a Dell Mini 9 or a Lenovo S10 netbook? After 20-odd years of professional computer use, I’m dog-tired of Mac OS (6,7,8,9, OS X), Linux dross and Windows crap. I’m tired of the incessant continuous system and application updates (iTunes, Creative Suite and Service Packs come to mind).

My work load hasn’t changed much over the years – word processing, drawing, light desktop publishing, PDFing, coding/developing, burning disks, image editing/resizing, video editing, audio editing, emailing, browsing and listening to music – all of which are a constant pleasure. Keeping up with Mac and Windows OS and their app updates is a constant pain-in-the-ass, everything feels bloated these days. Neither Mac nor Windows can be said to be “light” in weight, nor can the same be said of the Creative Suite behemoth; so, the idea of sitting behind a fast, stable, svelte legacy – but fabulous – OS, such as BeOS, using Firefox, GoBe productive, SoundPlay and Pe is a very enticing proposition indeed.

The low system requirement of BeOS and software, especially in this age of the so-called “cut back” netbook, smacks me as the most common-sense direction to take, especialy since I can purchase both Rel 5 and GoBe Productive for less than $50 immediately today off the internet. Not that I could install it on a Netbook (I think BeOS requires a Pentium) but the thought of that route is SO enticing. BeOS seems to me to be the perfect netbook OS – I think about it this more and more, especially after reading Scot’s article “Tales of a Beos refugee.” while he was getting off on Mac OS X, he had me salivating for BeOS.

Anyone out there no how to hack BeOS to run on a Dell Mini 9 or a Lenovo S10 netbook?

]]> By: shacker http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-292495 shacker Thu, 29 May 2008 07:12:47 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-292495 Nutela - Please send your email addr so I can add you as an editor and hook you up with the group! Nutela – Please send your email addr so I can add you as an editor and hook you up with the group!

]]> By: Nutela http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-292491 Nutela Wed, 28 May 2008 10:17:50 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-292491 Hi Scot, sure always willing to help but I'd like to somehow prevent double entries like BeTips suffered from (the same Tip written differently), any idea? Hi Scot, sure always willing to help but I’d like to somehow prevent double entries like BeTips suffered from (the same Tip written differently), any idea?

]]> By: shacker http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-290463 shacker Mon, 19 May 2008 06:48:05 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-290463 If any of you are willing to lend some time to contributing to the Tip Server, we have a small team at work on sprucing things up - contact me if you'd like to participate. If any of you are willing to lend some time to contributing to the Tip Server, we have a small team at work on sprucing things up – contact me if you’d like to participate.

]]> By: Lelldorin http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-290456 Lelldorin Mon, 19 May 2008 05:54:00 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-290456 Thanx for reactivation of BeTips, i like this database. BeTips is the inspiration of the BeSly, the BeOS, Haiku and Zeta knowledge base. We start our project past BeOS development dies and Zeta is alive. We misted a German Database of tutorials and documentations so the BeSly are born :-). Some times later we see that BeTips are online, but no new entry´s added to the Database, so we thinking about translation of our tutorials. Today we have tutorials and documentations in many languages like German, English, dutch and more. Thanx a lot for brining back a Legend :-) Greetings Lelldorin Thanx for reactivation of BeTips, i like this database. BeTips is the inspiration of the BeSly, the BeOS, Haiku and Zeta knowledge base. We start our project past BeOS development dies and Zeta is alive. We misted a German Database of tutorials and documentations so the BeSly are born :-). Some times later we see that BeTips are online, but no new entry´s added to the Database, so we thinking about translation of our tutorials. Today we have tutorials and documentations in many languages like German, English, dutch and more.

Thanx a lot for brining back a Legend :-)

Greetings Lelldorin

]]> By: ari-free http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-266899 ari-free Thu, 03 Apr 2008 07:03:41 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-266899 optimism...well there wasn't much optimism for mozilla years ago when AOL/Netscape turned it into a joke and it didn't look like it could go anywhere. We need to learn from itheir success and failures. Apple and linux have been around for years...I think it's now time to give a chance for a different approach. Most people don't want to be stuck with one hardware vendor and they don't want to put up with 5 zillion distros. But Apple and linux will never change their fundamental approach, not even decades from now and most people won't be interested in them no matter how many tricks they can do. optimism…well there wasn’t much optimism for mozilla years ago when AOL/Netscape turned it into a joke and it didn’t look like it could go anywhere. We need to learn from itheir success and failures.
Apple and linux have been around for years…I think it’s now time to give a chance for a different approach. Most people don’t want to be stuck with one hardware vendor and they don’t want to put up with 5 zillion distros. But Apple and linux will never change their fundamental approach, not even decades from now and most people won’t be interested in them no matter how many tricks they can do.

]]> By: Tyler Riti http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-266875 Tyler Riti Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:39:37 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-266875 @ari-free Aw... Your optimism is so cute! I just wanna fold it up and keepitinmypocket. Yes I <em>do</em>! Yes I <em>do</em>! @ari-free Aw… Your optimism is so cute! I just wanna fold it up and keepitinmypocket.

Yes I do!

Yes I do!

]]> By: ari-free http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-266799 ari-free Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:13:13 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-266799 shacker, Tyler Haiku would have a better chance because anyone can download it on their PC to try it out. Even people with macs should be able to try it without a major port, unlike when BeOS was around. Haiku would first target Europe and then it should try to go after China and India and other emerging economies. Even a pirated Windows is more expensive because of the required extra hardware cost. Mac? way too expensive to switch. Then there is the firefox model. Haiku could make a deal with google and haiku inc can sustain itself. Haiku already has a good <a href="http://www.haiku-os.org/news/2008-03-17/haiku_makes_it_into_google_summer_of_code_2008" rel="nofollow">relationship with google</a>. Haiku may very well be the googleOS that everyone likes to talk about. A google Linux won't work because it would be "yet another linux distro." But Haiku is a top down organization, like mozilla and there is someone there for google to work with. shacker, Tyler

Haiku would have a better chance because anyone can download it on their PC to try it out. Even people with macs should be able to try it without a major port, unlike when BeOS was around.

Haiku would first target Europe and then it should try to go after China and India and other emerging economies. Even a pirated Windows is more expensive because of the required extra hardware cost. Mac? way too expensive to switch.

Then there is the firefox model. Haiku could make a deal with google and haiku inc can sustain itself. Haiku already has a good relationship with google.

Haiku may very well be the googleOS that everyone likes to talk about. A google Linux won’t work because it would be “yet another linux distro.” But Haiku is a top down organization, like mozilla and there is someone there for google to work with.

]]> By: Kancept http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-266776 Kancept Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:36:38 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-266776 Forgot to mention the 10 I'm replacing are staff machines, not our public internet stations. I just replaced all of those Win desktops with Linux. Multihead terminals to reduce our actual number of physical equipment to maintain. Forgot to mention the 10 I’m replacing are staff machines, not our public internet stations. I just replaced all of those Win desktops with Linux. Multihead terminals to reduce our actual number of physical equipment to maintain.

]]> By: Kancept http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-266772 Kancept Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:23:07 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-266772 Um, what's really funny is in my enterprise, I'm running about 6 Macs, a few iPod Touches (yes, when hacked they are GREAT IT tools), and have an order of 10 more iMacs to replaces PC desktops. I have a new XServe installed with a RAID array on the way for it. We have replaced all but maybe 2 apps we use with Apple equivalents. Our enterprise is not thousands of machines, but well over 200. Billions of transactions a day with 2 of our servers, we have a total of 10 rackmounts running (we're a privately funded public library- no tax dollars). Um, what’s really funny is in my enterprise, I’m running about 6 Macs, a few iPod Touches (yes, when hacked they are GREAT IT tools), and have an order of 10 more iMacs to replaces PC desktops. I have a new XServe installed with a RAID array on the way for it. We have replaced all but maybe 2 apps we use with Apple equivalents. Our enterprise is not thousands of machines, but well over 200. Billions of transactions a day with 2 of our servers, we have a total of 10 rackmounts running (we’re a privately funded public library- no tax dollars).

]]> By: shacker http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-266759 shacker Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:52:15 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-266759 <blockquote>They aren’t even trying to go into games and the enterprise</blockquote> And you think Haiku stands a snowball's chance of getting into those markets? In today's climates? Apple makes slow, steady progress in those fields but faces so many challenges, and you think Haiku has a <em>better</em> chance than Apple of getting there? Dude. They aren’t even trying to go into games and the enterprise

And you think Haiku stands a snowball’s chance of getting into those markets? In today’s climates? Apple makes slow, steady progress in those fields but faces so many challenges, and you think Haiku has a better chance than Apple of getting there? Dude.

]]> By: Tyler Riti http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/comment-page-1/#comment-266756 Tyler Riti Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:45:26 +0000 http://birdhouse.org/blog/2008/02/29/the-beos-tip-server-is-back/#comment-266756 <blockquote>They aren’t even trying to go into games and the enterprise</blockquote>Sure they are. They're just not "storming the heavily fortified front gates" by trying to get in on server and desktop platforms. Instead, they're sneaking in by hiding in CEO and senior executives' pockets and hanging onto belt clips. Catch my drift? ;) They aren’t even trying to go into games and the enterprise

Sure they are. They’re just not “storming the heavily fortified front gates” by trying to get in on server and desktop platforms. Instead, they’re sneaking in by hiding in CEO and senior executives’ pockets and hanging onto belt clips.

Catch my drift? ;)

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